Post edited 11:42 am – February 20, 2012 by mozilla
I am not sure how it would have worked out For Palin had she ran.
Some Pro-Palin sites and many Pro-Palin supporters I have read on the web have felt that she would have done really good. They felt all last year that since the tea party and conservative bases had respect and admiration for her that they would have gotten behind her quickly and she would have sailed to the nomination. They really saw the turn out last year when she made speeches are she went around on a bus. But, alas, there is like three different periods where Palin caused a stir and left controversy on the door step. Dragging along her supporters and then not running was one of the things that some people felt a bit betrayed about. And some support has been lost. The same with her endorsement of Carly Fiorina and John McCain for Senate, and her stepping down as Governor.
But had she entered when she had more momentum, I feel that it still might not have been a cake walk to the nomination as pro-Palin people think. She had already alienated some, as I mentioned. with her choice to step down as Governor, which was mired in confusion and gets heavily debated on the web. She wasn't the only good choice that ran as well. But to an extent her hardcore supporters get sometimes to a stage where either their person can do no wrong or where they will attack others. And even when Palin was not running last summer, the Palin crowd was out on websites attacking the other candidates. It is often to the detriment of the said candidate when this happens because it will not endear new support.
The fact is a lot of Perry supports came out to defend their guy when he was leading polls, just as Cain people did and Newt people are still doing even with his fall in polls. And I fear that the Palin bunch would have been as viscous in some circles as others have been this election cycle.
The fact is when the media attacks Palin it makes people who support Palin defensive.It wasn't going to do favors for Palin to have backers, supports andpeople who will vote for her attacking others in the same movement with viciousness. If you've dealt with sites full of Ron Paul supporters, Newt Gingrich supporters, Mitt Romney supporters or Barack Obama supporters then you know what I mean. There guy can do no wrong. But all others are bad and if you question the said candidate then you get attacked.
But basically you knew the GOP establishment is, were and will be trying to put a stop to Palin, just like they have been doing to Newt and did to Perry, before he messed up himself and Cain when he was leading. And the media both democrat and republican would have been after her. So you have that in the backdrop.
And you also have to factor how she would have done against the likes of Bachmann, Newt, Santorum, Romney and Cain and the rest. They wouldn't have sat back and let her win. They would have gone after her hard. Just like they did with others. They all wanted to win and it became every man for himself, I would say, this past fall as candidates rose and fell in the polls.
So until she ran, it is hard to gauge, how it would have gone. Because there is a bunch of unknowns and only guesses at this point. But there is also a strong case to make that the tea party may have, and we just don't know, have found their candidate. If that had occurred then it would seem likely that she would be where Santorum is now, but with a bigger money chest. She might have done really good with the kind of message she started touting in the past four to five months in her speeches and on Fox News.
Just like she lost folks with some of her actions. She had a resurgence every time that she looked finished. Her book about the 2008 campaign and media tour brought out the base in 09. The attacks by the media generated buzz and got her some fans because she was attacking Obama or the media was afraid of her. Her joining Fox News gave her a platform to speak to America as did her facebook account and lastly she bounced back from the let down supporters had when she did not run by rallying to the defense of candidates and taking on the media and GOP establishment. Gingrich people are very fond of her because Palin has been defending him and a lot of the supporters were originally Perry, Cain or Palin backers.
Palin has not endorsed anyone which has helped her not seem partisan as well. So it helped her as well. Basically she has good qualities and some negatives. First it seemed she would run, then it seemed she was having second thoughts when Perry and Bachmann entered because she liked both, then it sounded like she soured on them as they fell in polls. Then she seemed like she might run, but she didn't and she sounded undecided on who to support. But she came to defense of Gingrich as people like Bachmann and Perry in a last ditch effort were attacking him. She also came to the defense of Cain, until allegations got in the way. But the fact is who knows what is going on behind the scenes. But she is undecided or likes various people who ran or is having a hard time because of the scrutiny of each person.
But as for herself, she would have had the same level of scrutiny had she ran and more, media dislikes her. So I heard mixed messages about why she didn't run. Everything from her not being ready to handle the level of scrutiny she would have gotten to being threatened to not wanting to overshadow others who ran to being happier with what she was doing now.
Still, until she actually runs, we don't know what would have happened. And I say that because people deeply against her within the conservative movement or within the republican party make a good case as to why she wouldn't have won the nomination or if she did not win the general election against Obama. They say her negatives are too high. But those for her make a good case as to why they like her, how she would have won over the base, won the nomination and beat Obama. We just don't know.
What we do know, at this hour, is that the race for the GOP nomination has been anything but smooth sailing. And the Palin people even if most have backed other candidates are still out there. And they are back with a vengeance, promoting a brokered convention and chomping at the bit to get Palin nominated. That backdrop has only bloodied the waters of this nomination process.
Pretty much Palin is the giant elephant in the room and until she gets soundly defeat or resoundingly wins the Presidency people will always support her and back her and her name will be out there. But for now, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum have endeared a core group of people. But the thing is that neither groups wants to give up. So I see the same passion now for Newt and Santorum that Palin people have for Palin.
But as for how she would have done, I don't know. There is a case to be made for and against her doing well had she joined the race. And I myself feel about her the exact same way I feel about Newt. Split 50/50 on whether she would be the best person to back and if she would be better than other candidates who ran.
So for me, your getting a person who is divided on Palin. The right brain likes her when she speaks and challenges the media and attacks Obama or Romney even or sticks up for Newt. But the left brain feels unsure about her and is deeply resentful of her for taking momentum away from Bachmann. Michele Bachmann I feel would have been in Palin's shoes with that much popularity, but without resigning from congress, had Palin not taken away her spotlight. And I feel that in some ways Palin spoiled Bachmann's run for president. Had Palin announced she was not running from the get go the support would have gone to Bachmann. The fact is yours truly finds many similarities with Bachmann and Palin. And for some reason I have gravitated more towards Bachmann and Cain and DeMint and Santorum, these days, more than Palin.
But I warmed up to Newt and was beginning to support him when he again seems to have lost momentum at the moment. So I was back to Santorum who had always been my third or fourth choice after Bachmann, Cain, and Paul Ryan, who didn't run and DeMint, who also didn't run.
But the bottom line is I am unsure how Palin would have done.